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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [RU] (185.128.*.*)
: 09/05/16(mon)08:14:50
ID:r4BgKI5i0
تؤ بارشلی ٯوتی هېزوگ شالاٯو اںنالاه؟
why do you use those even weirder than your own characters
AAAAAAAAA you broke the thread box
the app crashed on me twice with this thread, btw
BaI wasn't prepared for this level of multiculturalism
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [RU] (185.128.*.*)
: 09/05/16(mon)10:36:56
ID:r4BgKI5i0
>>2I'm Guti, not Russian. I asked if anyone here knows the Guti language. It's unlikely but still possible nonetheless. It can be written in Cyrillic but I personally prefer the Perso-Arabic script because it's used in Iran, which is the original homeland of the Guti.
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (*.movistar.cl)
: 09/05/16(mon)10:40:03
ID:zb86t4iqR
Nice, man, that's really cool.
What city do you in? Is there something interesting about your culture that you can talk about?
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [AR] (*.net.ar)
: 09/05/16(mon)10:41:27
ID:Dbflwmfi0
Shit I feel like an ignorant. Never heard of gutis before.
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [NL] (185.47.*.*)
: 09/05/16(mon)10:56:07
ID:HjKkdDpl0
Hi all.
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (200.54.*.*)
: 09/05/16(mon)10:58:18
ID:DrLDgQGE0
>>1ok i'm pretty sure that's not russian
Check
>>6.
Maybe the software fucked up when detecting the country?
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (*.vtr.net)
: 09/05/16(mon)11:09:43
ID:ZjiTyrDuR
But is Guti a state or a nation in russian territory?
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (*.vtr.net)
: 09/05/16(mon)11:15:13
ID:ZjiTyrDuR
I saw the wiki article but it refers to them mostly as if they where people from ancient times. Besides that I can only find information about the football player...
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (200.54.*.*)
: 09/05/16(mon)11:40:12
ID:DrLDgQGE0
Alright, I just look it up online. As it turns out, the Guti people lived in ancient times in the Iranian mountains, so probably that's why
>>1 didn't get the right country, because their people died a couple hundred of years ago. He's probably extinct as well, but I don't think that the fact he's dead has anything to do with this. Or maybe the connection in the mountains is really shitty... That makes a lot more sense.
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [AR] (*.net.ar)
: 09/05/16(mon)11:45:40
ID:Dbflwmfi0
God damn, first an alien and now a ghost.
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (*.vtr.net)
: 09/05/16(mon)11:47:34
ID:ZjiTyrDuR
Maybe
>>1-san lives in a kurdish community (supposedly with guti ancestry) in Russia. That wouldn't make him russian, in a sense (just like mapuches are not chilean, in a sense).
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (200.54.*.*)
: 09/05/16(mon)11:51:04
ID:DrLDgQGE0
Borders are merely a social construct after all, we're all citizen of the world
(not a feminazi though)
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (*.movistar.cl)
: 09/05/16(mon)11:54:24
ID:d4/NgnT00
so it means
>>1 is fucking dead?
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [AR] (*.net.ar)
: 09/05/16(mon)11:55:24
ID:Dbflwmfi0
>>22Shit I meant "citizens".
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (*.vtr.net)
: 09/05/16(mon)12:06:33
ID:ZjiTyrDuR
Why be satisfied with breaking political borders if we can break spatio-temporal borders too?
Uh... Why would we do such a thing?
>>24 wants to meet his 2D waifu, of course.
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CO] (152.200.*.*)
: 09/05/16(mon)16:23:01
ID:E/bqJcika
Do you Love Putin,my Guti friend.
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (*.movistar.cl)
: 09/05/16(mon)16:44:01
ID:m6VJJr8L0
Putin wants to bring back the glorious Soviet Union
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (186.175.*.*)
: 09/05/16(mon)16:47:52
ID:As7hd/7ER
Make Russia great again
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (*.vtr.net)
: 09/05/16(mon)16:53:03
ID:ZjiTyrDu0
Make the Gutian dynasty of Sumer great again
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [RU] (185.128.*.*)
: 09/05/16(mon)20:22:17
ID:r4BgKI5i0
>Is there something interesting about your culture that you can talk about?
The interesting parts of the culture are long gone, but they are remembered and I don't know how I should feel about some of the crazy shit my ancestors did, for example:
>whenever they went to battle, men would smear the menstrual blood of their wives and daughters on themselves - if none of them were on their period, it was considered a bad omen
>the corpse of every slain enemy was beheaded and the heads were taken by the soldiers as trophies until the next ambush to scare the enemies
>the punishment for not joining the army was castration if the man would be physically able to join; they would be then sent to battle naked in the frontline; people with birth defects were also naked in the frontline, including women and children
Those are some of the weirdest shit.
>Shit I feel like an ignorant. Never heard of gutis before.
Most people haven't even in Iran, don't feel ignorant. Much of this probably comes from the policy of the government that we're extinct and the refusal to accept a unified identity, no one even knows how many of us exist and technically there are many different Guti languages because of branching over time. Some live in Afghanistan, others in Armenia, Iraq, Turkey, even Russia and China and as far as Mongolia because of fleeing from persecution in Iran from the Persians and others as they spread. It's considered pseudohistory by almost everyone since it is only oral tradition and many different versions exist, if you asked a Gutian from Afghanistan what history is like it would be a whole different story. Also many assimilated into Kurds and continue to assimilate, especially in Iraq where there might actually be percentually more Guti than Iran but they've assimilated to not just Kurds but also Arabs. Read up on Marsh Arabs, some of them are actually assimilated Guti already from the ancient past. The problem of classification is that there isn't a unification of Guti language or culture, or even genetics because of assimilation and counter-assimilation, and scattering across vast regions as a minority but never a majority for literally thousands of years.
>But is Guti a state or a nation in russian territory?
No, only a few live in Russia as far as I know.
>kurdish community (supposedly with guti ancestry)
Kurds are like a nephew...
>Do you Love Putin,my Guti friend.
Not at all, I don't hate him either but he's a smug.
Note that the Guti language is technically not a single language, or even a single language family as some linguists that have been asked for an analysis have said. Some Guti speak barely dialects of Persian, others speak Semitic, creoles, etc. and the language isolate that descends from the ancient Guti is not a unified dialect either, and some use the Cyrillic or Latin alphabets, or even the Chinese script, so there is a huge difficulty in finding other speakers online. I've found a few posts on linguistics forums and imageboards by some but they're always a very different dialect if even the same language...
My hope is to find other speakers online and hopefully reconstruct the ancient language based on what the modern dialects/languages have in common, just like proto-languages are reconstructed. So far there has been no success at all because even some grammars are very different, it seems some dialects have prepositions and others have postpositions (my native dialect has suffixes) and two of the handful I've met online even said they have ejective consonants which is really strange. So maybe the idea of a unified Guti identity is a pure fantasy that will never happen, there will never be recognition, but it's not as important as the journey to discover the similarities and the differences because the linguistic classification and related matters are not practically relevant in that case.
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (*.movistar.cl)
: 09/05/16(mon)20:43:08
ID:zb86t4iqR
This is probably the best thing that's happened in a while here. Thank you for being our guest, Guti friend.
Are you interested in linguistics? Ive always wanted to learn some, and I might get into a linguistics major soon.
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [AR] (*.telmex.net.ar)
: 10/05/16(tue)14:15:01
ID:2tWKJyPC0
I'm glad threads here don't expire and only get archived because of posts like
>>31.
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [IN] (45.65.*.*)
: 10/05/16(tue)15:34:09
ID:f8k+/SvQ0
>>31>whenever they went to battle, men would smear the menstrual blood of their wives and daughters on themselves - if none of them were on their period, it was considered a bad omenHahaha, what the actual what.
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [NL] (178.18.*.*)
: 11/05/16(wed)19:50:13
ID:li60RZe40
>>34>not smearing menstrual blood on yourselfWhat a shitlord misogynist.
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Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (152.173.*.*)
: 11/05/16(wed)19:58:55
ID:qJNlEFSn0
Who are you quoting, my dutch baisan?