Sorry m8, but their board is pure cancer imho tbqh smh

Whoops, i mean "your" : ^)

>>2-3
why are you talking like a retard lol

also hello >>1
last i checked your board was pretty good, made me feel ashamed of not reading books much

For a place that sadly has "pol" in its name, I like it. Probably the only 8ch board I enjoy besides /jp/.
Also I want to fuck Anarchist Catgirl.

Sorry, but your board is only shit.

>>4 why no? Are you a paco? Lmao

Fuck! I meant why fucking NOT. Fucking keyboard.

They know their stuff, at least, unlike /pol/. Too bad they picked such a stupid sounding directory (2ch's sounds way cooler).

I mean, come on, Poverty sounds kinda badass.

Remember when we had our own kenmou for like a day when the staff was testing the new server (that we never got... q(ﾟдﾟ )?

>for like a day

Less than that ;_;

having our own poverty would be nice IF WE HAD MORE USERS
also almost everyone here is a filthy commie or anarchist anyway, it'd probably be a more serious VIP w

>also almost everyone here is a filthy commie or anarchist anyway, it'd probably be a more serious VIP w

If you are fascist pig like the jap, what are you doing here? FUCK ALL THE RIGHT WING PIGS

no i'm not, i just like saying "filthy commie"

>>7
How so? It's literally the least shitty leftist community on the western internet.

Lefty gringo is the best gringo

People who like /leftypol/ just don't realize that its likeness with /pol/ isn't just because of the name. Just append BaI to the United Chans already.

bai is not a chan reeeee

well, using 4chan memes to explain that bai is not a chan is not exactly the best way to put it

is America a leftist country?

those goatfuckers wouldn't even let us have left wing in our own countries during the 70s

Lol you need to take the guns from the people and white working class first.

Commisar lopez needs to be safe to steal the private property.

>>23
PE means Percia ?

the ancient and mystic Viceroyalty of Peru

I vote left-wing, will the government give me cool free stuff?

>>20
How is it like /pol/?

>>25
What are you talking about, leftists are mostly pro-gun.

>>28
You can't vote left-wing, left-wing parties don't exist anymore.
The so called "left-wing" parties are neoliberal at worst and social democracy at best.
If you want to push leftist activity join a socialist organization, don't vote.
If you just want free shit you aren't a leftist.

>What are you talking about, leftists are mostly pro-gun.
He's probably thinking of ``progressivism''.

Lenin took, or wanted to take weapons from the russian folk because afraid from them if everything went erong, but he could not, becuase they used them for hunting.

All countries with socialists ideology in this world has banned guns, you don't lie to us anymore. Leftist are pro gun only before taking power, after that they take them from all, but their own party.

>Lenin
>countries with socialists ideology

lol
Look at actual socialist revolutions instead.
Those Spanish socialists, they actually hated guns, they just liked waving them around because they looked cool.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/110713-spanish-civil-war-02.photoblog900.jpg

>you don't lie to us anymore
Who's "us"? /pol/?

Who cares about Lenin ww Marx is where it's at.

"The workers must be armed and organized. The whole proletariat must be armed at once with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition… Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary." - Uncle Marx

>>25
>and white working class
Oh you're one of those kids who think leftists have a "war on race"wwww

Spooky.

>"The workers must be armed and organized. The whole proletariat must be armed at once with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition… Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary." - Uncle Marx

Yes i know all the text that says that commies support guns, but in the practice it has been all the opposite(of course you are going to answer "that's not socialism", "my kind socialism is not like that"),One can say one thousand things in the theory, but that doesn't mean that you will do it, when everything falls down.

>Look at actual socialist revolutions instead.
Those Spanish socialists, they actually hated guns, they just liked waving them around because they looked cool.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/110713-spanish-civil-war-02.photoblog900.jpg

You don't understand: "Leftist are pro gun only before taking power, after that they take them from all, but their own party", is the same with the free-speech, they support free speech before taking power and all that, but after they took it, they become the oppressive kind of government.

>Who's "us"? /pol/?

No, man, not everyone that oppose commies is from /pol/, lol, you look traumatized ffs.

>>26
PE means Peru, Mr. Fujimori

>>29
>How is it like /pol/?

It's the same communication dynamics. Opinions are deeply unilateral but they make appear as if that wasn't the case because of 1) being well informed in history and nowadays politics BUT "being aware" of which forces are lying so they can select their sources; and 2) being well versed in theoretical literature which supports their opinions (not just Marx but the more obscure the better).

You may not be aware of this because of taking a brief glimpse at /pol/ and despising them by just perceiving radical infantilism (which of course they see in /leftypol/) but the truth is they do exactly the same. They actually read a lot of shit which benefits them about history and politics and they glorify thinkers like Evola (maybe Carl Shmitt too I would think), without paying attention to other theoretical standpoint.

And of course, besides these "quality posters", there is full of just inmature idiots in both boards. Yes, in terms of quantity is a lot more on /pol/ than /leftypol/...but that has to do with a lot variables and not just the ideology as such (like /leftypol/ being a lot less known).

>>37
>(of course you are going to answer "that's not socialism", "my kind socialism is not like that"),One can say one thousand things in the theory, but that doesn't mean that you will do it, when everything falls down.
Your whole argument of "What I say is socialism, books don't matter" falls down whenever you realize Nazi germany called itself socialist, or that North Korea literally has "democratic" in its country name. It doesn't matter how they decide to call themselves, what matter here is what socialism is, and that taking guns from people has nothing to do with communism or socialism. Pinochet also took guns away from people and pointed at them with guns from the military, but that has nothing to do with capitalism or neoliberalism or free markets (the things Pinochet's government was trying to implement). That was just a side effect of a dictatorship and it has nothing to do with the economy system it is trying to force. The same happens with dictatorships that have called themselves "socialist" in the past. You're just conflating unrelated things to fit your opinion.

>You don't understand: "Leftist are pro gun only before taking power, after that they take them from all, but their own party"
I do, the picture I posted was of the workers in Spain after the had taken power of the means of production in Catalonia. There are examples in Russia too, and right now in Rojava. Read more, leftist history is extensive, it's not just "muh USSR".

>they become the oppressive kind of government.
Again you're conflating "leftism" with "dictatorship". The amount of bias here is silly. A lot of dictatorships and war have happened in name of capitalism, why aren't people blaming capitalism for it?
Besides leftism is extremely varied, why are you generalizing all leftism? You realize "leftism" means any revolutionary ideology, not just "muh Stalin", right?

I want to fuck a donkey

>>39
Are you sure you're trying to make leftypol seem bad?! Also good one, /pol/ reading books, hah.

>>39
>They actually read a lot of shit
LOL

All they can do is be spooked out of their minds, spam the same memes all day and post screenshots of irrelevant people from Twitter/Reddit/Tumblr.

It's incredibly pathetic that a south american would be defending /pol/ tbh.

I'm not defending them. Reading is easy. You just have to be obsessed with 2 or 3 writers and vomit their ideas in response for every controversial issue.

/pol/ does that, /leftypol/ does the same (in a less retarded degree, because leftism in internet is not so viral) . Stop being that delusional.

Also, nowadays, you don't even need to read books to be obsessed and vomit some writers' superficial ideas. It's enough to browse their wikipedia pages. I'm giving too much credit to both /pol/ and /leftypol/ in that respect. But both places are terrible.

Can you tell us who are the writers /pol/ is obsessed with? And no, Hitler wasn't a writer.

On the other hand I can list some of /leftypol/ ones like Bakunin, Kropotkin, Orwell, Marx, Chomsky, Proudhon, Hegel... and those are just the main ones. In the reading threads there are many more.

Say what you want about leftypol, I like their catgirl comic. https://twitter.com/catgirlspls

>>46
How could you forget about this guy: http://i.imgur.com/l4xuBXc.jpg

Not only are Stirner's ideas great, he also looks fucking badass.

I'm talking about Engels' drawing, by the way(w

*Sigh* tfw you remember what you have read everywhere, that doesn't matter how many facts you show to a leftist, they will never understand, is a mental sickness.

>I'm not defending them. Reading is easy. You just have to be obsessed with 2 or 3 writers and vomit their ideas in response for every controversial issue.

Both for me are fucking delusional tbh, one obsessed with "jew hunting" and other with failed ideals, i don't understand this kind of psychology, but saying that /pol/ doesn't read is not true, both sites read a lot.

>Again you're conflating "leftism" with "dictatorship". The amount of bias here is silly. A lot of dictatorships and war have happened in name of capitalism, why aren't people blaming capitalism for it?

Not all capitalist countries are dictatorships, but ALL Socialist ideological countries are dictatorships.

>*Sigh* tfw you remember what you have read everywhere, that doesn't matter how many facts you show to a leftist, they will never understand, is a mental sickness.
What the fuck lmfao

Are dictatorships bad

>>46
Well, I've seen threads about Julius Evola, Sun Tzu, Spengler, Carl Schmitt, Hobbes, Friedman, John Locke, Ayn Rand, Aquinas, Schopenhauer, Mircea Eliade, Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Hegel too of course. And of course in the reading threads there are many more. But as I said, they are not intellectuals, they just choose to discuss what seems to favour them.

>that doesn't matter how many facts you show to a leftist
Oh, already pulling the "facts" card.

>but saying that /pol/ doesn't read is not true, both sites read a lot
You didn't answer the question. What do they read?

>but ALL Socialist ideological countries are dictatorships.
What's your source? And why are you conveniently discarding socialist revolutions like the Russian Revolution or the Free Territory of Ukraine, or the many improvements of working conditions that worker unions have achieved over the years? And have you forgotten how leftists have been persecuted and killed throughout history? Why are "leftists" who lead dictatorships kept alive? You clearly haven't thought about this too much.

>>46
Well, I've seen threads about Julius Evola, Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, Spengler, Carl Schmitt, Hobbes, John Locke, Friedman, Ayn Rand, Mircea Eliade, Plato, Aquinas, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Hegel too of course. And in the reading threads there are many more too. But as I said, they are not intellectuals, they just choose to quote anything which seems to favour them.

>to a leftist, they will never understand, is a mental sickness.
Oh and nice argument by the way, you killing it there.

I forgot Marcus Aurelius, I think they like him a lot.

>Well, I've seen threads about
Dunno, whenever I check /pol/'s catalog (which isn't often, to be honest), all I see is memes, Twitter screencaps or threads about the US. I honestly doubt they have threads of those authors you listed as often as leftypol has threads of debate/conversation.

>>59
His philosophy was most useful for me.

/pol/ reading is a good joke, mate.
There's a reason /lit/ and /his/ make fun of /pol/ but not /leftypol/.

>>60
That may be true, but as I browse leftypol catalog now I don't seem to find anything of much more value, except a thread about german idealism (and one thread about one guy angry because someone offended Chomsky, and 2 others about Zizek and Stirner which have (not them, but their threads) attained meme value now...there is a thread with 7 replies about Hegel too). So, yeah, /pol/ is utterly shit but /leftypol/ is not sooooo much better.

Fuck I deleted my reply because I thought it wasn't that good.

It was "Dunno, whenever I check /pol/'s catalog (which isn't often, to be honest), all I see is memes, Twitter screencaps or threads about the US. I honestly doubt they have threads of those authors you listed as often as leftypol has threads of debate/conversation."

Yeah...I was browsing the archive. Now I'm browsing the catalog. It's shit, like, it really is shit. Forget what I said. /leftypol/ is better.

ｹｺ━━━━( ´∀｀)人(´∀｀ )━━━━ﾝ!!

I feel really guilty now. Just because I tend to see flaws everywhere in the communities which surround me I forget how horrible the original dark side is.

>>63,65
There's been a rise in shitposting in /leftypol/ mostly due to new posters and /pol/ false flags (yes, /pol/ has been attacking /leftypol/ since its very beginnings as it's the only 8ch top board they haven't been able to colonize). Even though there's lot of shitposting it still manages to be better than /pol/.

>/pol/ reading is a good joke, mate.
>There's a reason /lit/ and /his/ make fun of /pol/ but not /leftypol/.

I remember long time ago, this was in the 4channel, when a Spenglerian /pol/ guy went to lit and literally wiped the floor with /lit/, alone:

https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S4570057

/pol/ is not what used to be in 2012-2013.

>I forgot Marcus Aurelius, I think they like him a lot.

Nobody, but a liberal hedonist, doesn't like the teachings of the Philosopher Emperor.

>Well, I've seen threads about Julius Evola, Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, Spengler, Carl Schmitt, Hobbes, John Locke, Friedman, Ayn Rand, Mircea Eliade, Plato, Aquinas, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Hegel too of course. And in the reading threads there are many more too. But as I said, they are not intellectuals, they just choose to quote anything which seems to favour them.

Of course they are not intellectuals, they are just random people with probably without "university" education(which is not that spectacular, we are lead by graduated university people and their intelligence is of a ape.), reading authors that are barely touched by such institutionalized educational system(as you mention Spengler, Evola, Carlyle, Machiavelli and even Ted Kacksynski) because ALL other author promoted by the educational system have lead the west to a chaos and decadence, and their inner struggle makes them find this kind of site(/pol/ is not the only one, have you ever visite "Burbujainmobiliaria" forum, is the Spanish /pol/). Nobody taught people of /pol/ nothing, that's why other boards that consider themselves intellectuals(of the system) consider them stupid or a joke, but meh, when i saw that lone Spenglerian dude wiping the floor with /lit/, i never saw /pol/ as a joke anymore, there is some truth in /pol/, or was, because now, is full of cancer.

>>68
Shitposting has been on the rise these past few weeks because of the US elections too.

>Why are "leftists" who lead dictatorships kept alive?

Because if you oppose them, they fucking kill you, and since they took your guns, you can't do anything.

I think the question flew way over your head, mate.

>>69
I wish I had known /pol/ on those years or before. Clearly is full of cancer now, but on the other hand I really do believe that "political correctness" (from the left or the right) is a mechanism to avoid the ugly truth most of the time. Maybe there was some significant message in their origins, as you say.

>>69
>Too much of this is too general to refute. Spengler says that ___ is like ___ and will result in ____, but until any of those are concretely defined, this is impossible to truly engage with.
>If I understand: your problem is that our elites are unaccountable, and your solution is to give them absolute power and define it as coming from God.
>I don't think that will help.
This ghost post is pretty much right. Spengler is a great thinker but his solutions are shit lmao.
Also that thread started with everyone shitting on the first poster and then it shifted to /pol/tards making "lol shitlibs" "btfo" etc. posts.
Reminded me a lot of this picture: https://i.imgur.com/3A53b.jpg

/pol/ sucked even when it wasn't /pol/. There's a reason moot axed /n/.

Oh yeah, I forgot he axed /pol/ once already.

>/pol/tards making "lol shitlibs" "btfo"

Only the last posts, the thread is long as fuck, in fact was a real massacre.

>mechanism to avoid the ugly truth most of the time

Specially this times where an angry muslim can cut your throat only for not believing in his god.

There is no hope for sure, but i prefer to stand like that Soldier in Pompeii.

>Spengler is a great thinker but his solutions are shit lmao.

I think he never saw or say it was a solution, but an inevitable end of a decaying culture and he described them with patterns that he saw in other cultures, in fact Elites have existed in all history, from India to Peru, that we don't have that kind of Elite in the west(talking about Aristocratic elites, or what he describe as "noble animals") doesn't mean that they will not exist in the future, if the west survives of course lol.

The problem with that dude that you quoted, is that everything that Spengler said is becoming true and is spooky.

And nothing last forever, everything decays and disappear, and the turn of the West is coming. Remember mortality of humans is still 100%

>/pol/tards making "lol shitlibs" "btfo"

Only the last posts, the thread is long as fuck, it was a real massacre.

>mechanism to avoid the ugly truth most of the time

Specially this times where an angry muslim can cut your throat only for not believing in his god, i know a german guy in a online game, and he doesn't care about nothing what is happening in his land, he just escape from reality, tbh i do that as well lol.

There is no hope for sure, but i prefer to stand like that Soldier in Pompeii.

>>69
He didn't wipe the floor at all.
All I see is just more empty platitudes about the enlightenment (without references), /pol/-tier antisemitism, and a poor understanding of history.

The thing is, sometimes people on imageboards and forums confuse autism for strength of argumentation.

>All I see is just more empty platitudes about the enlightenment (without references), /pol/-tier antisemitism, and a poor understanding of history.

And of course /lit/ could not answer or refute all this points, without getting angry, as i said before nobody taught /pol/ nothing, they are just a bunch of people that are completely frustrated with the system and try to find answers outside the system, that's why their ideas are not show in order, or are not fancy wrote etc, but ffs they really make angry the mainstream intellectuals.

>mainstream intellectuals
lol you still buying that "leftists are the establishment" shit, even though leftists get literally killed when they attempt something against the state?

>And of course /lit/ could not answer or refute all this points
They kept refuting his points in single sentences, the /pol/ guy just kept deflecting, acting smug without evidence and then claiming victory, as they always do.

Yep, like the gringo above said, he typed too much but said too little.

>>82
"mainstream intellectuals" are not precisely revolutionaries, but they bourgeois who masturbate to marx and the tradition which follows...as long as they can gain status in the academic scene

>bourgeois who masturbate to marx
...What

>lol you still buying that "leftists are the establishment" shit

But they are, they are still alive as you say, if they were so enemy of the system why there are not a pile of communist corpses somewhere in the desert lol, but that doesn't happen anymore(happened yes, but in not a big scale), instead of that they are promoting their ideology by the mainstream communication and educational system without risk lol, they are not a threat against the system anymore tbh, they just scream to much, but that's all, and if they get to power, it doesn't matter, we all now that such ideals always fail.

The only ones that thinks leftist are a threat against the system are the leftists, because no one else took them serious anymore.

>They kept refuting his points in single sentences, the /pol/ guy just kept deflecting, acting smug without evidence and then claiming victory, as they always do.

The /lit/ guys as well gave no evidence, and they are supposed to be the literature guys come on lol.

literally the thread started like this:

>Argument
>it's wrong you shitlord
>why
>you're a shitlord back to /pol/ you're wrong
>why
>argumentation, but you're still shitlord wrong

>Lit
>Intellectual elite

my balls.

>The /lit/ guys as well gave no evidence
>>argumentation, but you're still shitlord wrong
Make up your mind.

>they are not a threat against the system anymore
This is why the democrat party had to take so many measures against Bernie to take him out, and to silence Bernie fans during the convention, right

>Make up your mind.

I just copy pasted that from the end of that thread, this fucking hotheads lol

Oh, so you can't even come up with your own ideas, nice.

Why are you idiots still arguing with this spooked dumbass who had to post a single thread that seems like a false flag with all the "wow /pol/ is more mature than /lit/!!!" and "BTFO LOL" posts just because they (deservedly) called some guy a retard WHILE giving him arguments

That thread is pretty much like the picture >>74 posted ww

>his is why the democrat party had to take so many measures against Bernie to take him out, and to silence Bernie fans during the convention, right

>Bernie Sanders
>against the system

That bourgeois? lel, he never had a chance.

>Oh, so you can't even come up with your own ideas, nice.

Implying that you can as well.

Thanks 93, with those two last posts of his I realize he was a memer trying to fuck with us the whole time.
Should've realized sooner.

Boy you must feel very silly now!

You caught me, fucking nice intelligence service i did here, was a good training, well. KEK

Cya tomorrow fucking losers.

Oh god the amount of memes here...
Delete it all

proof that not everyone deserves a counterargument and telling retards to fuck off is okay

Leave it, so everyone else can learn from it.

we should learn from this (>>100) gringo

>>102
i-i'm a brit

y'all gringos to me

You guys are so innocent, I can't stand seeing you being tricked like this. (´・ω・｀)

It was just a prank bro

this website in a nutshell: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnlaPV9WEAAXcRu.jpg:large

Seems about right.

Hide /pol/ threads.

Ignore /pol/ posts.

Do not respond to /pol/ posters.

Please don't argue so much, it makes me sad

>>29
What's the point of voting left if you don't get cool free stuff?

You vote left so that the country that set up your puny satellite state doesn't send it's tanks in to maintain order. Though Bulgaria was safe from that sort of thing

Hello guys. How are you?

Hey, that's Ukrania isn't it? (I actually had to look that up). We're just doing fine. Lots of things going on here lately.

>>113
Бляаааааааааааать

>>115
Суууууууууууука

Early morning...I saw her standin' at the bus stop.
Long hair...she's not too bad.

>>35
Lol, they do. Have you never heard of ZANU–PF? Robert Mugabe? ANC? South African Communist Party that has a close relationship with the ANC? Jacob Zuma? Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF)? Julius Malema? Singing Kill the Boer? South African farm attacks/plaasmoorde? You have a lot to learn, my friend. Marxism is a carcinogenic chameleon that will use anything to worm its way into the body politic. In this case it'll use race instead of traditionally just economics only.

Why don't you read Marx first instead of throwing around the word "Marxism"? Alex Jones incarnates I fucking swear.

Well, it's a cultural bias, and those are not easy to break. Imagine if you were raised in a society where media and culture conditioned you throughout all of your life to believe Marxism and the left are negative concepts. How much reading would it take for you to be able to break free from this paradigm? Clearly a lot. Probably more so than people are willing to do.

Newsflash if you're voting you can't be a lefty, you're just a dumb liberal, if someones claims to be left and supports a candidate, they're just disgusting liberal trash.

>>119-120
I have read Marx and Mao's Little Red Book years ago. There's a huge gulf of difference between Marxist theory and Marxist praxis. When Marxism is applied in practice, it is incredibly destructive.
>Well, it's a cultural bias, and those are not easy to break. Imagine if you were raised in a society where media and culture conditioned you throughout all of your life to believe Marxism and the left are negative concepts.
I have a negative view of the left and Marxism because of the actions of these groups. Where I live in the USA, media, academia and culture actually condition me (or at least attempted) to hate my race, to feel guilty for historical tragedies I had no personal hand in, the public schools do not teach you much of value, no life skills, nothing... everything I learned that was of import I had to learn on my own in an autodidactic manner (which is why I tend to tell people to send their children to private school or homeschool them instead).

This bullshit is coming from the left much more so than the right, although the right (especially of the civic nationalist variety) is kind of slightly adopting this crap as well. TV and media didn't "condition" me to think this way, I came to these conclusions on my own. Also, I stopped watching Alex Jones a long time ago (around 2009), if you want to see a good trashing of him, watch Ryan Dawson on YouTube with his "Jones to the woodshed" videos.

Anyway, I see no one has refuted anything I've said in >>118 >>35 found it amusing of the idea that "leftists have a war on race" when that's exactly the case in the examples I've cited in >>118 , groups and individuals who have openly declared their belligerence towards whites (a race) with parties that reside on the left of the political spectrum.

>>122
There's a huge leap from Marx to Mao, as an anarchist i don't support Marx, but i think the destructivness you're talking about, comes from Leninism, which is what has been applied.

There has been other applications of communist ideas, the most famous example is Spanish civil war in 1936, there are a couple of documentaries about it, and also a book written by George Orwell, since he fought in that war.

>>123
>There's a huge leap from Marx to Mao, as an anarchist i don't support Marx, but i think the destructivness you're talking about, comes from Leninism, which is what has been applied.
True. Most of the communist states that have existed have been under Marxism–Leninism or a derivative of it.
>Spanish civil war
Which the leftists groups were aided by the USSR, I think had Franco and his forces lost, Spain would have ended up the first Marxist–Leninist(–Stalinist?) state in Western Europe, something the USSR had wanted to accomplish, since 1917, to set up as a beachhead to eventually conquer the rest of Western Europe, the UK and eventually the Nordic states. It's probably the largest reason why fascist movements had sprung up in the first place (Mussolini was previously a Marxist).

>and also a book written by George Orwell
As bad as public education is here in the USA, we did at least read Animal Farm in its entirety, it wasn't until later in life that I found out that Orwell was still a leftist, although he became a more moderate democratic socialist and disavowed Stalinism and the USSR. I wonder if he would still be a leftist today? Considering how batshit insane they are now (and pretty much the entire UK political establishment, regardless of political affiliation for that matter).

>There has been other applications of communist ideas
True, on small scales it does seem to work, but so do small–scale non–Marxist communes (we've had plenty of hippie run communes here in the USA that at least semi–worked and communes based on other ideas) I don't see much of a difference between them besides ideology.

I understand all that, but I strictly go by how it's all been applied and it's been a resounding disaster, worldwide. When you have Julius Malema, leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) saying that "We are not calling for the slaughter of white people‚ at least for now" (so you'll call for a slaughter at a later time then?), a leader of a party that admits that it is a Marxist–Leninist party (a REAL leftist party, not a Fox News declared party) see http://www.effonline.org/constitution and in the linked PDF:
>The EFF subscribes to the Marxist-Leninist and Fanonian schools of thought on its analysis of the State, imperialism, class and race contradictions in every society.
How can anyone say after all this evidence that there isn't a leftist "war on race"? It's funny, around 8-10 years ago, I would have dismissed this as all right-wing conspiracy theory and dismissed the critic as some rambling idiot, but now when I actually venture out and seek for myself and observe I came to the eventually realization that the critics were largely right, albeit, they could have stated their criticisms in a more eloquent manner. Refinement is definitely needed, though, the information is not wrong.

tankies are the devil ;∼;

Fuck you marxists, your ONGs are filling our country with niggers.

Yeah dude, I'm sure it's the marxists who want more immigrants to leave their families and countries and become exploited workers.

>>122
>Marxist praxis
Marxism is just an economic theory, communism and all derivatives are another thing.

>I have read Marx
Don't ask me why but

--I doubt it.

>>127
There's a difference between economic and cultural Marxism. Economic Marxism dealt with the power imbalances between the proletariat and bourgeoisie and how the latter were exploiting the former with class and wealth differences. Cultural Marxism on the other hand, deals with culture, ethnics and race. In this configuration, white European Americans = bourgeois oppressors, people of color (PoC) = oppressed proletariat. The economics and class and wealth are almost never mentioned as a factor, unless it's used as a bludgeon against this redefined bourgeoisie, thus, even a wealthy and well-off PoC can still be seen as an oppressed prole in this paradigm. Sexual minorities are also a part of this, being classed as oppressed proles fighting against bougie, bigoted "heteronormative" people.

>>128
Marxism is just an economic theory, communism and all derivatives are another thing.
You cannot separate the two. Communism and all derivatives were Marxist economic theory put into practice. Now some uni professor having intellectual masturbatory sessions with Marxist theory and nothing beyond that is a different story of course. ;)

>cultural Marxism
Stopped reading there.

>>131
Of course you did. You dismiss out of hand the idea that Marxism has become transmogrified into non-economic terms and weaponized against the majority people and culture. I've seen a few of you Chileans bitch about multiculturalism on here, we suffer under the same shit here in the USA. And it's not really about profit, because the capitalists will go out of their way and spend endless amounts money to facilitate it all. They're losing profit left and right even in the short term. Why do you think that is?

>[US]
Stopped reading there.

Reading just that probably still made you dumber, but thanks for the warning, your sacrifice won't be forgotten.

lol gringos

test

No pesquen al gringo culiao aweonao

>>137
It worked.

Sorry to inform you, fam, but these gaslighting techniques no longer work.

lmao gringos

Yes.

lol bolshevik beaners

That's badass, thanks.

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Would make for a great band name at least.

Now I know what to name my grindcore band.

gommies ;~;