He was an authoritarian piece of shit but he's got merits for being a symbol of the revolution and making Cuba a relatively good country despite the US trying to ruin them so they could say "communism doesn't work!" (even though Cuba isn't communist in first place).
Bonus points for pissing the American government off and surviving over 600 assassination attempts by the CIA.

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これ一反木綿じゃねえか？

A dictator but not a totalitarian one. Nobody can't deny Fidel Castro was a lot better than Batista's corrupted regime nor his success in reviving the Cuban economy in spite of hundreds of assassination attempts and being isolated for over 50 years (thanks to the United States, yet some people blame him like it's his fault he didn't let himself be killed or something).
He did mostly good things (like raising the literacy rate from 60% to 99% or having a great healthcare and people live as long as they do in the United States and Switzerland) and some bad shit (deaths he caused are between 2,000 and 5,000, many of the dead themselves murderers and torturers under Batista).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_attempts_on_Fidel_Castro
CIA ON SUICIDE WATCH

>According to CIA Director Richard Helms, Kennedy Administration officials exerted a heavy pressure on the CIA to "get rid of Castro."
>It explains a staggering number of assassination plots, aiming at creating a favorable impression on President John F. Kennedy.
Yet it only took one attempt to kill JFK. ????

Shit I'd fuck an anime Castro. http://i.imgur.com/ClENYrL.jpg

It's the typical story about a revolutionary guy who, in the middle of a crisis, promises changes and gains people's affection. But then, slowly, he becomes a dictator, and before you realize he's killing innocent people and leting his own people starve to death. It's the same story over and over again: Mugabe, Gadafi, Chavez, Stalin, Idi Amin, you name it.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

>he's killing innocent people and leting his own people starve to death
lol what

Oh yes!!! You're right, your poor grammar and your bait-like post has shown me that people have never starved in Cuba. Sorry, and thank you for opening my eyes.

lmfao get checked dude

Yes, definitely. I feel so ashamed now. Thank you.

>>7
>being isolated for over 50 years (thanks to the United States, yet some people blame him like it's his fault he didn't let himself be killed or something)
>>11
>he's (...) leting his own people starve to death

Like poetry.

Who's making fun of your grammar you fucking autist holy shit, stop shitting up the thread.

Huh, quit sperging out all over the thread, ID:juEp0qhu0. It's honestly fucking embarrassing.

I don't even like Fidel Castro, but your claims are simply bullshit. The people he killed weren't "innocents", they were torturers, terrorists, and other criminals employed by the Batista regime. Cuba has eliminated severe child malnutrition and shown significant progress in reducing extreme poverty and hunger.

For fuck's sake, their life expectancy is of 79 years because of how good their health care is.
http://www.who.int/countries/cub/en/

The percentage of population below minimum level of dietary energy consumption is around the same as your country, even.
http://apps.who.int/nutrition/landscape/report.aspx?iso=cub
http://apps.who.int/nutrition/landscape/report.aspx?iso=chl

>>11
He was a sincere revolutionary who did his best with the material conditions he was given and the historical context he found himself in. He helped to improve the lives of the vast majority of Cubans, sent aid to struggles around the world, and has stuck his middle finger up to the US for 60 years. He wasn't perfect (specially when he had just started) but he was a comrade.
Shrugging revolutionary struggles, despite their flaws, off as "state capitalism" or "not real socialism" is not productive or respectful. This time at least, because fuck China, North Korea, etc.

I mean, even if what you said about starvation was true (it isn't), it'd be because of the US embargos, anyway.

>>11
Innocent people die all the time under governments around the world.
If that's your barometer to judge politics you're going to have a bad time.

Also, "letting"? During the Período Especial the government did all they could to prevent people from starving, which is kind of hard when your major trade partner collapsed and the world's remaining superpower locked you out of the majority of global markets.

Anyway,
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>>11
Oh, by the way please don't think I'm telling you you should like Fidel Castro or anything. I just wanted to give a little context to your claims.

>>22
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Castro was a dictator who nationalized the means of production instead of democratizing it and giving it to the people
He was pretty nice as far as tyrants go, but ultimately he was an enemy to those who desire liberty and actual socialism
At least he gave quite the middle finger to Daddy America during all these decades

communism doesn't work

my penis doesn't work

↑ same

Mine works but I don't use it

Sometimes I use it to pee, but it isn't often.

How do I pee? No one ever taught me how

BORN TO REVOLT
CUBA IS A FUCK
Jail Em All 1959
I am cigar man
410,757,864,530 FAILED ASSASSINATION ATTEMPTS

I think this speaks to a greater American narrative.

>>33 makes more sense than you, >>34

>>2
>He was an authoritarian piece of shit
>>11
>But then, slowly, he becomes a dictator
>>26
>Castro was a dictator

Most world leaders today are dictators or at the very least authoritarian autocrats/oligarchs. And that's been the case for most of human history no matter the culture or civilization. Saying that some country's leader is or was a dictator is no different from saying that he has two arms or two legs. It's just that ordinary.

people in cuba be like:
"at last I can leave the country and be free" "finally I can come back to cuba to meet back my family" "my uncle who was imprisoned for 15 years is finally back"

20 year old college kids be like:
ACKSHUALLY

ack

>>36
iron fist

>>37
>at last I can leave the country and be free
>finally I can come back to cuba to meet back my family
I'd love to hear how that's any different from people who want to leave any other capitalist country and can't because they can't afford a plane ticket lol

>my uncle who was imprisoned for 15 years is finally back
Perfect example is a refugee here in Australia who's locked up for 3 and a half years. No charges, no rights and no way to change.
This isn't even a backwards place, it's Australia. Unless of course you happen to be a refugee.

that's a shitty excuse considering that plane is not the only way to get out of most countries, you still can take a bus or share a car with an acquaintance or whatever, in this case you shouldn't even try to leave illegaly because you might get arrested or killed, and even then the other country might deport you back

>you still can take a bus or share a car with an acquaintance or whatever
lol @ thinking everyone can afford that

>you shouldn't even try to leave illegaly because you might get arrested or killed
And this doesn't happen in "democratic" countries? Fuck off.

Many people have died trying to come to Chile illegally because there's still active mines in the borders.

>>36
Yup, the only actual choice we get is voting for who gets to choose, that's all.

>>42
not gonna keep discussing with you because you got mad and stuff, but "lol @ thinking everyone can afford that ", yes, everybody can afford a bus ticket to a nearby country, even if you work for minimum wage, and autostopping is always another choice, so the liberty is still there, even if is not that big liberty, is still there versus not having that choice at all in Cuba

>not having that choice at all in Cuba
lol you don't know anything. This is your brain on ideology.
Leaving Cuba is a very long, arduous, and highly bureaucratic process, but it is not illegal, and the hardest part is getting the money for it, anyway. You know Cuba is an island, right? Plane tickets are expensive.
Cuba's existence for over 50 years as a country that refuses to implement Western style capitalism means it suffers grotesque distortions from the Western media (or those chicano exiles in Miami) of the reality of Cuban life. The "Cubans can't leave Cuba" is a good example of this.

>yes, everybody can afford a bus ticket to a nearby country
Dude...

>>45
>yes, everybody can afford a bus ticket to a nearby country
I can't believe I'm going to use this phrase unironically, but check your fucking privilege.

If you work for the minimum and pay rent and have no other support you're gutted.

Leftism is a funny thing.