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Human Rights in your country (66 respuestas)

1 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [BG] (78.90.*.*) : 21/06/16(tue)11:49:15 ID:Eus4ocWq0

How are the human rights in your country? Do you have freedom of speech, freedom of the press, property rights?

My country we do not have freedom of the press or speech. If they found that I posted here criticizing them, they would declare everyone in my IP range to be enemy of the state. We do not have much property rights either, as if you retaliate against an intruder, you are liable to being sued for damages against him.

2 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [GB] (* : 21/06/16(tue)19:44:05 ID:QzyaCaOA0

Cool story.

3 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 21/06/16(tue)19:47:27 ID:g5DXAop50

We aren't as fucked as the US or UK that's for sure. There isn't a lot of problem with freedom of *speech* specifically here but the police is still fucked up when dealing with people.

4 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [US] (* : 22/06/16(wed)00:08:27 ID:XyC2NnGg0

>Do you have freedom of speech, freedom of the press, property rights?
All of the above. However when it comes to being able to defend your property it depends on the state. Many states in the Midwest and South have the Castle Doctrine where you can defend yourself against trespassers without any repercussions but the Northeast and the West Coast do not have these laws.

>We aren't as fucked as the US or UK that's for sure
Please don't lump us in with the British, we actually have freedoms over here

5 : : 22/06/16(wed)00:26:53 ID:m+ZKUQXm0

>Many states in the Midwest and South have the Castle Doctrine where you can defend yourself against trespassers without any repercussions
Sounds like an excuse to be literally trigger-happy.

6 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 22/06/16(wed)01:44:36 ID:YRCGcnEI0

lol but how is that government surveillance going
and your police doesn't seem to.... friendly either to say the least

7 : : 22/06/16(wed)01:48:31 ID:w5st0xsv0

Yeah, just because there aren't security cameras around every corner doesn't mean the US don't have a serious surveillance problem.

8 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 22/06/16(wed)01:55:39 ID:4BIVu78A0

Property is not a right.

9 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [BG] (78.90.*.*) : 22/06/16(wed)04:40:09 ID:ggNvEz790

Nothing is a right, really. It's only considered so if enough people agree. In other words, rights are decided through intersubjective consensus.

10 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 22/06/16(wed)05:02:04 ID:YRCGcnEIR

Rights in the US are formalized by law under the bill of rights though. We don't live under a consensus based system.

11 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [BG] (78.90.*.*) : 22/06/16(wed)06:16:39 ID:ggNvEz790

The bill of rights would not have come into fruition if the majority of people living under the jurisdiction didn't agree to those rights.

12 : : 22/06/16(wed)06:20:56 ID:m+ZKUQXm0

That was a one time deal though.

13 : : 24/06/16(fri)00:19:00 ID:xyXG5Bx20

It wasn't a one time deal. The Bill of Rights will stand as long as we protect it against the government or a corporation or any organization or individual that would infringe upon it. "The tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants" and all that. As for what >>11 is saying, yes. The 10 amendments were written to serve as protection against the government after the creation of the Constitution and were written by the many of the same Founding Fathers who signed the Declaration of Independence. The citizens didn't vote in a referendum for the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, but their representatives did. The representatives were acting on behalf of their constituents so these documents are products of the general will.

14 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [US] (172.56.*.*) : 24/07/16(sun)22:24:05 ID:emofoNPu0


>"Rights in the US are formalized by law under the bill of rights though. We don't live under a consensus based system."


15 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [US] (71.164.*.*) : 26/07/16(tue)23:35:43 ID:uT44al9k0

You have the right to burger

16 : : 27/07/16(wed)01:18:32 ID:MxuNQI6t0


17 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 27/07/16(wed)02:03:26 ID:AnaRpWG+0

Oh nice a peruvian
hello peruvian friend

18 : : 27/07/16(wed)12:32:13 ID:MxuNQI6t0

what's upp
it's nice to be around here

19 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 27/07/16(wed)16:15:04 ID:X1ueqS030

yeah it's been kind of slow lately though, you should create a thread

20 : : 27/07/16(wed)17:04:25 ID:MxuNQI6t0

done (´• ω •`)

21 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [UA] (* : 26/08/16(fri)23:16:37 ID:crIlS+hB0

Ukraine is a hell without human rights, and it's only getting worse. We have a very polarized society, especially about sexuality. On one extreme we have ultra SJW like FEMEN, on the other extreme the government. Since 2007, a high-speed destruction of the society has been underway. There is no freedom of expression in real life, the government doesn't care much what is said online if it doesn't incite violence though and that's the only positive side of it. But when it comes to porn and sexual freedom between consenting adults of opposite sex, there is no more freedom at all outside marriage and it makes me angry. Dating is essentially forbidden. The police have unlimited power to do anything and raids on people's homes happen every day, if they have suspicion that there is porn. Watching porn online is difficult because all the big porn sites are blocked, repeated attempts to access them will get arrested and in the worst case shot dead for resisting arrest. Small porn sites can still be accessed and proxies exist, but proxy sites are also now starting to get blocked and porn results on Google are now filtered either because Google is cucks for allowing the government to demand it or the ISP has to add its own filter. Either way Ukraine is now hell for everyone who is not rich enough to bribe the system. There is an ongoing campaign to prosecute camgirls, prostitutes, pornographers, etc. and the cops have infiltrated every level of society to gain information about people's private sex life. A friend of mine went missing two years ago and some months later she was found dead, every cop did not care because she was a "succubus" so they all knew she'd been camwhoring to pay her rent. It was clear the cops had killed her but no one was ever arrested because all the cops agreed with it, they are also starting to shoot on sight anyone suspected of porn. In my town a man who had uploaded sex videos with his girlfriend online was shot last month, the cops said he had a gun and threatened to shoot but everyone knows that is not true. No one knows what happened to his girlfriend so it is assumed she was shot by the cops too, or arrested. The worst part is that the only feminists in the country do not care because minorities are not being especially targeted. Our only feminists are FEMEN and they are lying leftist propaganda monsters who tarnish the reputation of every girl who is treated badly by anyone by claiming she protested with them topless even if the girl opposes FEMEN, and say that the protesting was why they were treated badly. Then we also have extremists who want to ban the teaching of evolution from schools, and demand creationism to be taught instead, and they also want to kill everyone whose hair is not blond and eyes are not blue, which is a little ironic when Ukrainians do not have blond hair and blue eyes by default like Poles or Russians. We have a lot more Turkic and Uralic ancestors, of course the "nationalists" claim that to be a lie because they themselves are purely Russian and do not want Ukraine to even exist independent of Russia... How they can then call themselves nationalists is incomprehensible, they even take Naryzhenko seriously but are also ashamed and even deny knowing who he is or why they agree with him and the other Putin cucks especially of Russia like Berdnikov, Kadyrov, etc. They want to destroy Ukraine and they will not stop at anything to do it, they ally with every extreme side they can even if they hate each other because the extremes all know that they have the same ultimate goal of removing Ukrainian independence.

22 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 26/08/16(fri)23:42:38 ID:le8a3MtY0

Wow man, how the hell Ukraine went so shit even for sudaca standards?

23 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 26/08/16(fri)23:44:04 ID:6XNjkUadR

Didn't know any of that, sounds like real fucking shit.
Crazy what humans can get to be like in society.

24 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [GB] (* : 28/08/16(sun)13:32:19 ID:rLIISo1L0

No wonder so many of the ukrainians I meet in dota get really angry.

25 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [BG] (78.90.*.*) : 28/08/16(sun)16:54:51 ID:6rYStREI0

Dating and porn have not been a thing for most of human history. Only after they became a thing did birth rates start dropping because women are only choosing the genetically fit men and the rest of the men don't care because they can go look at porn. Maybe that's why the Ukrainian government is cracking down on porn and dating, who knows.

26 : : 28/08/16(sun)16:57:06 ID:N4wKQpSZ0

>women are only choosing the genetically fit men
If this was true, then many ugly as fuck couples I see in my every day life wouldn't exist.

27 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 28/08/16(sun)17:19:56 ID:l+Vff2mmR

Women don't like genetically fit men though that might help...women like men with "status", which is shown by their behaviour and an interesting way of life

28 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (181.72.*.*) : 28/08/16(sun)17:36:15 ID:HDBgmXax0

And men like girls with big tits and/or big asses, what's your point?

29 : : 28/08/16(sun)17:38:40 ID:N4wKQpSZ0

Had to check the URL bar to make sure I wasn't accidentally on /r9k/.

30 : : 28/08/16(sun)17:44:40 ID:AJi8O1g5R

A bunch of lonely 20 somethings talking about what women like...
Please let's not.

31 : : 28/08/16(sun)17:53:13 ID:l+Vff2mmR

I don't have a point
Oh man you are such a one here is crying about not getting laid, I'm just trying to understand a relational phenomenon. Now I couldn't even read Freud because that would be /r9k/-tier, right? Fuck off anti-memer memer.

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33 : : 28/08/16(sun)17:54:37 ID:N4wKQpSZ0

ww What

34 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 28/08/16(sun)17:55:36 ID:l+Vff2mmR

What you read

35 : : 28/08/16(sun)17:56:29 ID:HDBgmXax0


36 : : 28/08/16(sun)17:57:30 ID:N4wKQpSZ0

^ lul

37 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 28/08/16(sun)19:17:42 ID:32C8QveI0

I don't understand what is wrong with >>27

38 : : 29/08/16(mon)03:44:33 ID:3V9ak1Q5a

What's a r9k

39 : : 04/09/16(sun)23:14:15 ID:y4KO28KX0


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41 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [JP] (* : 11/09/16(sun)05:06:48 ID:z7Om5wZ+0


42 : sage[CL] (* : 11/09/16(sun)11:59:38 ID:Y8rG5zug0

It's a board famous for having aspies/socially inept virgins users who usually talk like >>21 about women.

43 : : 11/09/16(sun)12:37:32 ID:lCoJtsAXR

Sage-san please don't start with this again...

44 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [BG] (78.90.*.*) : 12/09/16(mon)01:45:58 ID:lck5Mkzr0

No, sage-san please continue.

45 : : 12/09/16(mon)02:34:32 ID:GNC7Y+3SR

Breat Gritain you are a chaos worshipper!

46 : : 12/09/16(mon)02:38:41 ID:aIqhAduM0

Alignment: Evil Chaotic

47 : : 12/09/16(mon)11:03:15 ID:lck5Mkzr0

Do you hear the voices too?

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49 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [GB] (* : 12/09/16(mon)23:16:33 ID:7V0DCFg00

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50 : : 12/09/16(mon)23:17:28 ID:aIqhAduM0

Fuck yeah.

51 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [BG] (78.90.*.*) : 13/09/16(tue)14:26:54 ID:w6vd1Zur0

∠_/ ゚ ヮ゚)/ Human far-rights.

52 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 13/09/16(tue)14:28:07 ID:vp0Nsutl0

www hey bulgarian guy, you always around so, what are your thoughts on the world?
who or what is to blame for the state of society? how could we fix it?

53 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [BG] (78.90.*.*) : 13/09/16(tue)14:36:17 ID:w6vd1Zur0

>what are your thoughts on the world?
World's doing worse than it could be doing.
>who or what is to blame for the state of society?
Nothing and no one in particular, really. It's a combination of complacency and lack of any real conflict or purpose that keeps people lazy, indifferent and unmotivated. Back before 1989 we had a goal to build communism and people liked the feeling that society was heading somewhere. The Americans likewise had the purpose to stop us and build what they saw as a fair and just world and that undoubtedly made them feel the same way. But now, there is no grand master plan, no conflict, no real no real incentive to move things forward.
>how could we fix it?
Reignite all the old conflicts and it'll get the world back on track. With any luck, we'll see a return of that rapid technological progress we saw during the Cold War.

54 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 13/09/16(tue)14:37:36 ID:vp0Nsutl0

Interesting. I see nothing bad with that.

What are your thoughts on anarchism, then?

55 : : 13/09/16(tue)14:37:59 ID:e0/DNWfV0

I see you're an accelerationist.

56 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (191.116.*.*) : 13/09/16(tue)14:42:51 ID:Dleq4PGRR

That's like creating really biiig spooks to which each party can pledge allegiance and glorify like a mindless mass to feel better. If there is nothing out there then that's it and we shall live or die for our own desires.

57 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [BG] (78.90.*.*) : 13/09/16(tue)14:46:34 ID:w6vd1Zur0

Anarchism is not very well suited for large scale societies. According to evolutionary psychologist and anthropologist Robin Dunbar, we're limited to empathizing with roughly 150 people (Dunbar's Number). This makes for a decently sized commune, tribe or gang, but large communities of thousands or millions of people require organization that supersedes the intersubjective consensus of the individuals.

In other words, we won't have large scale metropolises or even medium sized towns if we tried a completely stateless model, regardless if the goal is syndicalist or capitalist.

58 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 13/09/16(tue)14:48:16 ID:vp0Nsutl0

But why couldn't we just live in communes?

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60 : : 13/09/16(tue)14:50:42 ID:w6vd1Zur0

That's what we're doing now and I don't think anyone is happy about it. Humans are hardwired for a sense of belonging. This is why politics is so popular and draws such heavy controversy. You can try to live your life as a hedonist, but it'll never feel as fulfilling as being a part of something greater than oneself.

61 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (* : 13/09/16(tue)14:52:05 ID:vp0Nsutl0

But there is. There's the law (something greater than ourselves), morals (greater than ourselves), politics (same), etc.

The problem with the world is believing that there is something greater than the individual.

62 : : 13/09/16(tue)14:54:59 ID:w6vd1Zur0

Because communes aren't conducive to the kind of high-tech society we're used to enjoying. You need extremely large scale of cooperation to research and build computer technology, for example. Your average computer requires educated researchers, raw materials mined in Subsaharan Africa, labor hired in China, efficient shipping and logistics, etc. in order to be available to the average person at a reasonable price relative to performance capability. This can only be achieved thanks to unified, large-scale societies.

63 : : 13/09/16(tue)14:58:54 ID:w6vd1Zur0

>The problem with the world is believing that there is something greater than the individual.
That depends on your perspective. On one hand, too many people believe that there indeed is nothing greater than themselves. Hence they become those narcissists that take billions of selfies and shriek at the slightest bit of criticism levied against them. On the other, you have too many people believing in silly things like God or Allah.

64 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [CL] (191.116.*.*) : 13/09/16(tue)15:01:10 ID:Dleq4PGRR

But I cannot feel like I belong to a mass, just to small communities where I can understand the sharing of ideas as a real process where these ideas are mastered and modified by its members in a genuine and fulfilling communicational background. I could never feel connected by social interaction which emulates the rapid transmission and consumption of propaganda.

65 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [BG] (78.90.*.*) : 13/09/16(tue)15:10:07 ID:w6vd1Zur0

>I could never feel connected by social interaction which emulates the rapid transmission and consumption of propaganda.
I don't know if it's because I live in the former East Bloc or not, but I'm a sucker for flags, soldiers, regimentation, propaganda and big government.

66 : Nameless@Passing through the lobby [US] (* : 19/09/16(mon)21:49:33 ID:7JRsbb7P0

>lol but how is that government surveillance going
Don't think that your nation's government is not doing the same. Most, if not every country's government has an NSA-equivalent signals intelligence agency of some sort and you can be sure they're also collecting metadata on their own citizens as well. Just because you might not have your own Edward Snowden telling you this, don't assume that it's not happening.

>and your police doesn't seem to.... friendly either to say the least
I personally have had mixed interactions with police here in the USA, but more so positive than negative. From what I've read, out of ~12 million arrests, 400-500 of those end up in deaths, while that number should be worked at to be made lower, a lot of those end up being purposeful suicide by cop, or a perpetrator threatened the LEO with deadly force. Unfortunately, a lot of people just entirely take up a narrative that one side or another promote and don't bother to delve into the details and evidence of such things on a case by case basis. There are legitimate things to criticize police here, certainly, but there's also this hysterical anti-police propaganda that also glosses over details and facts. The truth is usually somewhere nudged in the middle.

>Sounds like an excuse to be literally trigger-happy.
Castle doctrine just negates the duty to retreat. Granted, there's been some controversial cases, but I'd rather have the US view on self-defense than how the UK does. In the UK you cannot even legally defend oneself even if you first retreat and warn the offending party. They're very "cuckholded" when it comes to such things and I'd rather we not go down the same path.
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