>>123>There's a huge leap from Marx to Mao, as an anarchist i don't support Marx, but i think the destructivness you're talking about, comes from Leninism, which is what has been applied.True. Most of the communist states that have existed have been under Marxism–Leninism or a derivative of it.
>Spanish civil warWhich the leftists groups were aided by the USSR, I think had Franco and his forces lost, Spain would have ended up the first Marxist–Leninist(–Stalinist?) state in Western Europe, something the USSR had wanted to accomplish, since 1917, to set up as a beachhead to eventually conquer the rest of Western Europe, the UK and eventually the Nordic states. It's probably the largest reason why fascist movements had sprung up in the first place (Mussolini was previously a Marxist).
>and also a book written by George OrwellAs bad as public education is here in the USA, we did at least read Animal Farm in its entirety, it wasn't until later in life that I found out that Orwell was still a leftist, although he became a more moderate democratic socialist and disavowed Stalinism and the USSR. I wonder if he would still be a leftist today? Considering how batshit insane they are now (and pretty much the entire UK political establishment, regardless of political affiliation for that matter).
>There has been other applications of communist ideasTrue, on small scales it does seem to work, but so do small–scale non–Marxist communes (we've had plenty of hippie run communes here in the USA that at least semi–worked and communes based on other ideas) I don't see much of a difference between them besides ideology.
I understand all that, but I strictly go by how it's all been applied and it's been a resounding disaster, worldwide. When you have Julius Malema, leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) saying that "We are not calling for the slaughter of white people‚ at least for now" (so you'll call for a slaughter at a later time then?), a leader of a party that admits that it is a Marxist–Leninist party (a REAL leftist party, not a Fox News declared party) see
http://www.effonline.org/constitution and in the linked PDF:
>The EFF subscribes to the Marxist-Leninist and Fanonian schools of thought on its analysis of the State, imperialism, class and race contradictions in every society.How can anyone say after all this evidence that there isn't a leftist "war on race"? It's funny, around 8-10 years ago, I would have dismissed this as all right-wing conspiracy theory and dismissed the critic as some rambling idiot, but now when I actually venture out and seek for myself and observe I came to the eventually realization that the critics were largely right, albeit, they could have stated their criticisms in a more eloquent manner. Refinement is definitely needed, though, the information is not wrong.