People who like /leftypol/ just don't realize that its likeness with /pol/ isn't just because of the name. Just append BaI to the United Chans already.

bai is not a chan reeeee

well, using 4chan memes to explain that bai is not a chan is not exactly the best way to put it

is America a leftist country?

those goatfuckers wouldn't even let us have left wing in our own countries during the 70s

Lol you need to take the guns from the people and white working class first.

Commisar lopez needs to be safe to steal the private property.

>>23
PE means Percia ?

the ancient and mystic Viceroyalty of Peru

I vote left-wing, will the government give me cool free stuff?

>>20
How is it like /pol/?

>>25
What are you talking about, leftists are mostly pro-gun.

>>28
You can't vote left-wing, left-wing parties don't exist anymore.
The so called "left-wing" parties are neoliberal at worst and social democracy at best.
If you want to push leftist activity join a socialist organization, don't vote.
If you just want free shit you aren't a leftist.

>What are you talking about, leftists are mostly pro-gun.
He's probably thinking of ``progressivism''.

Lenin took, or wanted to take weapons from the russian folk because afraid from them if everything went erong, but he could not, becuase they used them for hunting.

All countries with socialists ideology in this world has banned guns, you don't lie to us anymore. Leftist are pro gun only before taking power, after that they take them from all, but their own party.

>Lenin
>countries with socialists ideology

lol
Look at actual socialist revolutions instead.
Those Spanish socialists, they actually hated guns, they just liked waving them around because they looked cool.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/110713-spanish-civil-war-02.photoblog900.jpg

>you don't lie to us anymore
Who's "us"? /pol/?

Who cares about Lenin ww Marx is where it's at.

"The workers must be armed and organized. The whole proletariat must be armed at once with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition… Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary." - Uncle Marx

>>25
>and white working class
Oh you're one of those kids who think leftists have a "war on race"wwww

Spooky.

>"The workers must be armed and organized. The whole proletariat must be armed at once with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition… Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary." - Uncle Marx

Yes i know all the text that says that commies support guns, but in the practice it has been all the opposite(of course you are going to answer "that's not socialism", "my kind socialism is not like that"),One can say one thousand things in the theory, but that doesn't mean that you will do it, when everything falls down.

>Look at actual socialist revolutions instead.
Those Spanish socialists, they actually hated guns, they just liked waving them around because they looked cool.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/110713-spanish-civil-war-02.photoblog900.jpg

You don't understand: "Leftist are pro gun only before taking power, after that they take them from all, but their own party", is the same with the free-speech, they support free speech before taking power and all that, but after they took it, they become the oppressive kind of government.

>Who's "us"? /pol/?

No, man, not everyone that oppose commies is from /pol/, lol, you look traumatized ffs.

>>26
PE means Peru, Mr. Fujimori

>>29
>How is it like /pol/?

It's the same communication dynamics. Opinions are deeply unilateral but they make appear as if that wasn't the case because of 1) being well informed in history and nowadays politics BUT "being aware" of which forces are lying so they can select their sources; and 2) being well versed in theoretical literature which supports their opinions (not just Marx but the more obscure the better).

You may not be aware of this because of taking a brief glimpse at /pol/ and despising them by just perceiving radical infantilism (which of course they see in /leftypol/) but the truth is they do exactly the same. They actually read a lot of shit which benefits them about history and politics and they glorify thinkers like Evola (maybe Carl Shmitt too I would think), without paying attention to other theoretical standpoint.

And of course, besides these "quality posters", there is full of just inmature idiots in both boards. Yes, in terms of quantity is a lot more on /pol/ than /leftypol/...but that has to do with a lot variables and not just the ideology as such (like /leftypol/ being a lot less known).

>>37
>(of course you are going to answer "that's not socialism", "my kind socialism is not like that"),One can say one thousand things in the theory, but that doesn't mean that you will do it, when everything falls down.
Your whole argument of "What I say is socialism, books don't matter" falls down whenever you realize Nazi germany called itself socialist, or that North Korea literally has "democratic" in its country name. It doesn't matter how they decide to call themselves, what matter here is what socialism is, and that taking guns from people has nothing to do with communism or socialism. Pinochet also took guns away from people and pointed at them with guns from the military, but that has nothing to do with capitalism or neoliberalism or free markets (the things Pinochet's government was trying to implement). That was just a side effect of a dictatorship and it has nothing to do with the economy system it is trying to force. The same happens with dictatorships that have called themselves "socialist" in the past. You're just conflating unrelated things to fit your opinion.

>You don't understand: "Leftist are pro gun only before taking power, after that they take them from all, but their own party"
I do, the picture I posted was of the workers in Spain after the had taken power of the means of production in Catalonia. There are examples in Russia too, and right now in Rojava. Read more, leftist history is extensive, it's not just "muh USSR".

>they become the oppressive kind of government.
Again you're conflating "leftism" with "dictatorship". The amount of bias here is silly. A lot of dictatorships and war have happened in name of capitalism, why aren't people blaming capitalism for it?
Besides leftism is extremely varied, why are you generalizing all leftism? You realize "leftism" means any revolutionary ideology, not just "muh Stalin", right?

I want to fuck a donkey

>>39
Are you sure you're trying to make leftypol seem bad?! Also good one, /pol/ reading books, hah.

>>39
>They actually read a lot of shit
LOL

All they can do is be spooked out of their minds, spam the same memes all day and post screenshots of irrelevant people from Twitter/Reddit/Tumblr.

It's incredibly pathetic that a south american would be defending /pol/ tbh.

I'm not defending them. Reading is easy. You just have to be obsessed with 2 or 3 writers and vomit their ideas in response for every controversial issue.

/pol/ does that, /leftypol/ does the same (in a less retarded degree, because leftism in internet is not so viral) . Stop being that delusional.

Also, nowadays, you don't even need to read books to be obsessed and vomit some writers' superficial ideas. It's enough to browse their wikipedia pages. I'm giving too much credit to both /pol/ and /leftypol/ in that respect. But both places are terrible.

Can you tell us who are the writers /pol/ is obsessed with? And no, Hitler wasn't a writer.

On the other hand I can list some of /leftypol/ ones like Bakunin, Kropotkin, Orwell, Marx, Chomsky, Proudhon, Hegel... and those are just the main ones. In the reading threads there are many more.

Say what you want about leftypol, I like their catgirl comic. https://twitter.com/catgirlspls

>>46
How could you forget about this guy: http://i.imgur.com/l4xuBXc.jpg

Not only are Stirner's ideas great, he also looks fucking badass.

I'm talking about Engels' drawing, by the way(w

*Sigh* tfw you remember what you have read everywhere, that doesn't matter how many facts you show to a leftist, they will never understand, is a mental sickness.

>I'm not defending them. Reading is easy. You just have to be obsessed with 2 or 3 writers and vomit their ideas in response for every controversial issue.

Both for me are fucking delusional tbh, one obsessed with "jew hunting" and other with failed ideals, i don't understand this kind of psychology, but saying that /pol/ doesn't read is not true, both sites read a lot.

>Again you're conflating "leftism" with "dictatorship". The amount of bias here is silly. A lot of dictatorships and war have happened in name of capitalism, why aren't people blaming capitalism for it?

Not all capitalist countries are dictatorships, but ALL Socialist ideological countries are dictatorships.

>*Sigh* tfw you remember what you have read everywhere, that doesn't matter how many facts you show to a leftist, they will never understand, is a mental sickness.
What the fuck lmfao

Are dictatorships bad

>>46
Well, I've seen threads about Julius Evola, Sun Tzu, Spengler, Carl Schmitt, Hobbes, Friedman, John Locke, Ayn Rand, Aquinas, Schopenhauer, Mircea Eliade, Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Hegel too of course. And of course in the reading threads there are many more. But as I said, they are not intellectuals, they just choose to discuss what seems to favour them.

>that doesn't matter how many facts you show to a leftist
Oh, already pulling the "facts" card.

>but saying that /pol/ doesn't read is not true, both sites read a lot
You didn't answer the question. What do they read?

>but ALL Socialist ideological countries are dictatorships.
What's your source? And why are you conveniently discarding socialist revolutions like the Russian Revolution or the Free Territory of Ukraine, or the many improvements of working conditions that worker unions have achieved over the years? And have you forgotten how leftists have been persecuted and killed throughout history? Why are "leftists" who lead dictatorships kept alive? You clearly haven't thought about this too much.

>>46
Well, I've seen threads about Julius Evola, Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, Spengler, Carl Schmitt, Hobbes, John Locke, Friedman, Ayn Rand, Mircea Eliade, Plato, Aquinas, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Hegel too of course. And in the reading threads there are many more too. But as I said, they are not intellectuals, they just choose to quote anything which seems to favour them.

>to a leftist, they will never understand, is a mental sickness.
Oh and nice argument by the way, you killing it there.

I forgot Marcus Aurelius, I think they like him a lot.

>Well, I've seen threads about
Dunno, whenever I check /pol/'s catalog (which isn't often, to be honest), all I see is memes, Twitter screencaps or threads about the US. I honestly doubt they have threads of those authors you listed as often as leftypol has threads of debate/conversation.

>>59
His philosophy was most useful for me.

/pol/ reading is a good joke, mate.
There's a reason /lit/ and /his/ make fun of /pol/ but not /leftypol/.

>>60
That may be true, but as I browse leftypol catalog now I don't seem to find anything of much more value, except a thread about german idealism (and one thread about one guy angry because someone offended Chomsky, and 2 others about Zizek and Stirner which have (not them, but their threads) attained meme value now...there is a thread with 7 replies about Hegel too). So, yeah, /pol/ is utterly shit but /leftypol/ is not sooooo much better.

Fuck I deleted my reply because I thought it wasn't that good.

It was "Dunno, whenever I check /pol/'s catalog (which isn't often, to be honest), all I see is memes, Twitter screencaps or threads about the US. I honestly doubt they have threads of those authors you listed as often as leftypol has threads of debate/conversation."

Yeah...I was browsing the archive. Now I'm browsing the catalog. It's shit, like, it really is shit. Forget what I said. /leftypol/ is better.

ｹｺ━━━━( ´∀｀)人(´∀｀ )━━━━ﾝ!!

I feel really guilty now. Just because I tend to see flaws everywhere in the communities which surround me I forget how horrible the original dark side is.

>>63,65
There's been a rise in shitposting in /leftypol/ mostly due to new posters and /pol/ false flags (yes, /pol/ has been attacking /leftypol/ since its very beginnings as it's the only 8ch top board they haven't been able to colonize). Even though there's lot of shitposting it still manages to be better than /pol/.

>/pol/ reading is a good joke, mate.
>There's a reason /lit/ and /his/ make fun of /pol/ but not /leftypol/.

I remember long time ago, this was in the 4channel, when a Spenglerian /pol/ guy went to lit and literally wiped the floor with /lit/, alone:

https://warosu.org/lit/thread/S4570057

/pol/ is not what used to be in 2012-2013.

>I forgot Marcus Aurelius, I think they like him a lot.

Nobody, but a liberal hedonist, doesn't like the teachings of the Philosopher Emperor.

>Well, I've seen threads about Julius Evola, Sun Tzu, Machiavelli, Spengler, Carl Schmitt, Hobbes, John Locke, Friedman, Ayn Rand, Mircea Eliade, Plato, Aquinas, Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Hegel too of course. And in the reading threads there are many more too. But as I said, they are not intellectuals, they just choose to quote anything which seems to favour them.

Of course they are not intellectuals, they are just random people with probably without "university" education(which is not that spectacular, we are lead by graduated university people and their intelligence is of a ape.), reading authors that are barely touched by such institutionalized educational system(as you mention Spengler, Evola, Carlyle, Machiavelli and even Ted Kacksynski) because ALL other author promoted by the educational system have lead the west to a chaos and decadence, and their inner struggle makes them find this kind of site(/pol/ is not the only one, have you ever visite "Burbujainmobiliaria" forum, is the Spanish /pol/). Nobody taught people of /pol/ nothing, that's why other boards that consider themselves intellectuals(of the system) consider them stupid or a joke, but meh, when i saw that lone Spenglerian dude wiping the floor with /lit/, i never saw /pol/ as a joke anymore, there is some truth in /pol/, or was, because now, is full of cancer.

>>68
Shitposting has been on the rise these past few weeks because of the US elections too.

>Why are "leftists" who lead dictatorships kept alive?

Because if you oppose them, they fucking kill you, and since they took your guns, you can't do anything.

I think the question flew way over your head, mate.

>>69
I wish I had known /pol/ on those years or before. Clearly is full of cancer now, but on the other hand I really do believe that "political correctness" (from the left or the right) is a mechanism to avoid the ugly truth most of the time. Maybe there was some significant message in their origins, as you say.

>>69
>Too much of this is too general to refute. Spengler says that ___ is like ___ and will result in ____, but until any of those are concretely defined, this is impossible to truly engage with.
>If I understand: your problem is that our elites are unaccountable, and your solution is to give them absolute power and define it as coming from God.
>I don't think that will help.
This ghost post is pretty much right. Spengler is a great thinker but his solutions are shit lmao.
Also that thread started with everyone shitting on the first poster and then it shifted to /pol/tards making "lol shitlibs" "btfo" etc. posts.
Reminded me a lot of this picture: https://i.imgur.com/3A53b.jpg

/pol/ sucked even when it wasn't /pol/. There's a reason moot axed /n/.

Oh yeah, I forgot he axed /pol/ once already.

>/pol/tards making "lol shitlibs" "btfo"

Only the last posts, the thread is long as fuck, in fact was a real massacre.

>mechanism to avoid the ugly truth most of the time

Specially this times where an angry muslim can cut your throat only for not believing in his god.

There is no hope for sure, but i prefer to stand like that Soldier in Pompeii.

>Spengler is a great thinker but his solutions are shit lmao.

I think he never saw or say it was a solution, but an inevitable end of a decaying culture and he described them with patterns that he saw in other cultures, in fact Elites have existed in all history, from India to Peru, that we don't have that kind of Elite in the west(talking about Aristocratic elites, or what he describe as "noble animals") doesn't mean that they will not exist in the future, if the west survives of course lol.

The problem with that dude that you quoted, is that everything that Spengler said is becoming true and is spooky.

And nothing last forever, everything decays and disappear, and the turn of the West is coming. Remember mortality of humans is still 100%

>/pol/tards making "lol shitlibs" "btfo"

Only the last posts, the thread is long as fuck, it was a real massacre.

>mechanism to avoid the ugly truth most of the time

Specially this times where an angry muslim can cut your throat only for not believing in his god, i know a german guy in a online game, and he doesn't care about nothing what is happening in his land, he just escape from reality, tbh i do that as well lol.

There is no hope for sure, but i prefer to stand like that Soldier in Pompeii.

>>69
He didn't wipe the floor at all.
All I see is just more empty platitudes about the enlightenment (without references), /pol/-tier antisemitism, and a poor understanding of history.

The thing is, sometimes people on imageboards and forums confuse autism for strength of argumentation.

>All I see is just more empty platitudes about the enlightenment (without references), /pol/-tier antisemitism, and a poor understanding of history.

And of course /lit/ could not answer or refute all this points, without getting angry, as i said before nobody taught /pol/ nothing, they are just a bunch of people that are completely frustrated with the system and try to find answers outside the system, that's why their ideas are not show in order, or are not fancy wrote etc, but ffs they really make angry the mainstream intellectuals.

>mainstream intellectuals
lol you still buying that "leftists are the establishment" shit, even though leftists get literally killed when they attempt something against the state?

>And of course /lit/ could not answer or refute all this points
They kept refuting his points in single sentences, the /pol/ guy just kept deflecting, acting smug without evidence and then claiming victory, as they always do.

Yep, like the gringo above said, he typed too much but said too little.

>>82
"mainstream intellectuals" are not precisely revolutionaries, but they bourgeois who masturbate to marx and the tradition which follows...as long as they can gain status in the academic scene

>bourgeois who masturbate to marx
...What

>lol you still buying that "leftists are the establishment" shit

But they are, they are still alive as you say, if they were so enemy of the system why there are not a pile of communist corpses somewhere in the desert lol, but that doesn't happen anymore(happened yes, but in not a big scale), instead of that they are promoting their ideology by the mainstream communication and educational system without risk lol, they are not a threat against the system anymore tbh, they just scream to much, but that's all, and if they get to power, it doesn't matter, we all now that such ideals always fail.

The only ones that thinks leftist are a threat against the system are the leftists, because no one else took them serious anymore.

>They kept refuting his points in single sentences, the /pol/ guy just kept deflecting, acting smug without evidence and then claiming victory, as they always do.

The /lit/ guys as well gave no evidence, and they are supposed to be the literature guys come on lol.

literally the thread started like this:

>Argument
>it's wrong you shitlord
>why
>you're a shitlord back to /pol/ you're wrong
>why
>argumentation, but you're still shitlord wrong

>Lit
>Intellectual elite

my balls.

>The /lit/ guys as well gave no evidence
>>argumentation, but you're still shitlord wrong
Make up your mind.

>they are not a threat against the system anymore
This is why the democrat party had to take so many measures against Bernie to take him out, and to silence Bernie fans during the convention, right

>Make up your mind.

I just copy pasted that from the end of that thread, this fucking hotheads lol

Oh, so you can't even come up with your own ideas, nice.

Why are you idiots still arguing with this spooked dumbass who had to post a single thread that seems like a false flag with all the "wow /pol/ is more mature than /lit/!!!" and "BTFO LOL" posts just because they (deservedly) called some guy a retard WHILE giving him arguments

That thread is pretty much like the picture >>74 posted ww

>his is why the democrat party had to take so many measures against Bernie to take him out, and to silence Bernie fans during the convention, right

>Bernie Sanders
>against the system

That bourgeois? lel, he never had a chance.

>Oh, so you can't even come up with your own ideas, nice.

Implying that you can as well.

Thanks 93, with those two last posts of his I realize he was a memer trying to fuck with us the whole time.
Should've realized sooner.

Boy you must feel very silly now!

You caught me, fucking nice intelligence service i did here, was a good training, well. KEK

Cya tomorrow fucking losers.

Oh god the amount of memes here...
Delete it all

proof that not everyone deserves a counterargument and telling retards to fuck off is okay

Leave it, so everyone else can learn from it.

we should learn from this (>>100) gringo

>>102
i-i'm a brit

y'all gringos to me

You guys are so innocent, I can't stand seeing you being tricked like this. (´・ω・｀)

It was just a prank bro

this website in a nutshell: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnlaPV9WEAAXcRu.jpg:large

Seems about right.

Hide /pol/ threads.

Ignore /pol/ posts.

Do not respond to /pol/ posters.

Please don't argue so much, it makes me sad

>>29
What's the point of voting left if you don't get cool free stuff?

You vote left so that the country that set up your puny satellite state doesn't send it's tanks in to maintain order. Though Bulgaria was safe from that sort of thing

Hello guys. How are you?

Hey, that's Ukrania isn't it? (I actually had to look that up). We're just doing fine. Lots of things going on here lately.

>>113
Бляаааааааааааать

>>115
Суууууууууууука

Early morning...I saw her standin' at the bus stop.
Long hair...she's not too bad.

>>35
Lol, they do. Have you never heard of ZANU–PF? Robert Mugabe? ANC? South African Communist Party that has a close relationship with the ANC? Jacob Zuma? Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF)? Julius Malema? Singing Kill the Boer? South African farm attacks/plaasmoorde? You have a lot to learn, my friend. Marxism is a carcinogenic chameleon that will use anything to worm its way into the body politic. In this case it'll use race instead of traditionally just economics only.